R1200S Tyres

boxerscott · Post by **boxerscott** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:07 am

Our lass bought some Ejecto mattresses for the B+B, for guests who we were suspicious about. They work well by all accounts..

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:59 am

boxerscott wrote:Our lass bought some Ejecto mattresses for the B+B, for guests who we were suspicious about. They work well by all accounts..

Shoulda been more critical on Tripadvisor............ Guests would be safer - staying with Fred & Rosemary!

Al

1200boxer · Post by **1200boxer** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:07 pm

Quote "Did you fit the 190/55 to the wider, 6" rim, rear wheel?"

My bike came with the wider rim. The handling became much lighter with the bike more eager to turn. So much so that I had to restrain myself for a while until I got used to the new feel.Like taking a lot of weight off the bike really.

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:18 pm

1200boxer wrote:Quote "Did you fit the 190/55 to the wider, 6" rim, rear wheel?"

My bike came with the wider rim. The handling became much lighter with the bike more eager to turn. So much so that I had to restrain myself for a while until I got used to the new feel.Like taking a lot of weight off the bike really.

A good friend of mine has a K1200S on which he always used Bridgestone Battlax tyres. Last year he tried Michelin Pilot 3 tyres and was amazed at how the handling of his bike changed, rather as you have described. He didn't actually like them and is now back with, the more chilled, Bridgestones.

Anyway I wonder what it was that made the big difference to the handling on your R1200S? - was it the difference in profile between the 190/50 and the 190/55 or, was it a change to Michelin Pilot 3 tyres from a different brand/type of tyre?

Any thoughts?

Dids · Post by **Dids** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:59 pm

Dids wrote:
1200boxer wrote:Quote "Did you fit the 190/55 to the wider, 6" rim, rear wheel?"

My bike came with the wider rim. The handling became much lighter with the bike more eager to turn. So much so that I had to restrain myself for a while until I got used to the new feel.Like taking a lot of weight off the bike really.
A good friend of mine has a K1200S on which he always used Bridgestone Battlax tyres. Last year he tried Michelin Pilot 3 tyres and was amazed at how the handling of his bike changed, rather as you have described. He didn't actually like them and is now back with, the more chilled, Bridgestones.

Anyway I wonder what it was that made the big difference to the handling on your R1200S? - was it the difference in profile between the 190/50 and the 190/55 or, was it a change to Michelin Pilot 3 tyres from a different brand/type of tyre?

Any thoughts?

Sorry that should have been K1200RS.....

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:54 pm

I had Pilot Roads on my BCR then fitted Road 4s - wasn't sure about them. The had Road 4 Trails on my GS and after 2 trips round Europe I loved them and also the Road 4s on my BCR. My 12s has Pilot Powers and I love them

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:13 pm

Always difficult doing back to back comparisons, as you invariably swap out well-worn tyres for spiffy new ones. When the new tyre is the "bestest new-fangled hoop" - one tends to attribute the improvement to the tyre-wizard at the new maker.

I still rate the old Pilot Road 2, as being virtually unshakable for road-riding, with significantly better mileage than the successors. The 3 and 4 may have slightly improved water-handling, but I think you'd have to be going some - to prove it.

Al

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:15 pm

I never had a problem with the PR2 either. A great tyre and better looking than the 3 but they must be pretty old if one were to buy them today.

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:30 pm

Ive still got a new one - fitted to a wheel in the garage.......

I reckon it would still be good. Boxerscott recently re-fitted a tyre he took off the bike about 8 years ago........

He didn't fall off.

Al

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:50 pm

It might have been PR2s that I had on my BCR - the 4s certainly felt different

milleplod · Post by **milleplod** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:14 pm

Blackal wrote:Always difficult doing back to back comparisons, as you invariably swap out well-worn tyres for spiffy new ones. When the new tyre is the "bestest new-fangled hoop" - one tends to attribute the improvement to the tyre-wizard at the new maker.

I still rate the old Pilot Road 2, as being virtually unshakable for road-riding, with significantly better mileage than the successors. The 3 and 4 may have slightly improved water-handling, but I think you'd have to be going some - to prove it.

Al

Hmmm, I might try a pair on my ST, it'll need somthing new for next year's trip to Spain. £166 a pair, delivered, from delti.com. Regarding age, I once mailed Michelin asking if new, old-stock tyres were safe to use. Their response was that their tyres, as long as they'd been stored correctly, were safe to use at any age. Presumably, if properly stored, they don't 'go off'.

Pete