Lethal brakes

BoxercupDave · Post by **BoxercupDave** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:21 pm

Well, I have had the Cup for almost 3 weeks and can say I find the brakes on the 1100S lethal! I am confident that if I want to stop either the front or back wheel from turning, I just need to dab on the brakes.... wow! not used to locking up the rear, but strangely it seems to stay upright and has on a couple of occasions skipped to a halt.
I have changed the pads both front and rear, with really no change in the bikes ability to lock up. Really hope I don't have to 'dab' the brakes on a corner, in a hurry!
I am of course comparing the BMW brakes to the Bandit 600, and this may be where the problem lies. The Bandits brakes are soft, as is the suspension, a totally different bike to ride.

nab 301 · Post by **nab 301** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:46 pm

Strange , I have both bikes and while I prefer the brakes on the S I can't say I have the problems you do. The Bandit brakes while different are ok for me too but could possibly do with a larger diameter master cylinder ( too much lever travel)

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:43 pm

I loved my 11s brakes. EBC HH pads, twin line braided hoses and no ABS.

SP250 · Post by **SP250** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:14 pm

Dave
Like you I remember the brakes being fierce at first and they only get more so if you replace the standard rubber brake lines with Goodridge ones.
I have now got used to one or two finger braking as you can keep more finesse over the throttle whilst braking.

BoxercupDave · Post by **BoxercupDave** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:12 pm

SP250 wrote:Dave
Like you I remember the brakes being fierce at first and they only get more so if you replace the standard rubber brake lines with Goodridge ones.
I have now got used to one or two finger braking as you can keep more finesse over the throttle whilst braking.

So it seems this is normal...thats a relief...best get used to them then!!

Motocod · Post by **Motocod** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:12 am

I like mine a lot better since the ABS and servo was ditched. Lovely Venhill braided hoses, and plenty of feel at the lever. None of the grabby sensitive action I had before with the servo. Pity no ABS of course, but it was too expensive to fix.

boxerscott · Post by **boxerscott** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:20 pm

Find this post unusual. IMHO those two big jugs give enough braking when the throttle is cajoled and things are planned. Never ever had to give the s a big handful of brake. Have had the back wheel lock up and slide with enthusiastic down changes combined with poor throttle control though.

edit. come to think of it I gave her a big panic handful once when looking at something of interest, not the stationery cars in front, and nearly ended up a passenger in the back of a fiat panda. I think the brakes are just fine even with the manufacturer lines.

big rob · Post by **big rob** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:40 am

boxerscott wrote:Find this post unusual. IMHO those two big jugs give enough braking when the throttle is cajoled and things are planned. Never ever had to give the s a big handful of brake. Have had the back wheel lock up and slide with enthusiastic down changes combined with poor throttle control though.

edit. come to think of it I gave her a big panic handful once when looking at something of interest, not the stationery cars in front, and nearly ended up a passenger in the back of a fiat panda. I think the brakes are just fine even with the manufacturer lines.

Boxerscott, have you considered auditioning for the vacant post of the Reverend I.M. Jolly for this years Hogmany telly entertainment?

Rob.

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:56 am

Yep love the brakes on the BoxerCup

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:15 pm

Boxercup brakes work great - loads more feel than the VFR. I realised how good they were after 2 months only riding the Honda. Made me think about changing the BM lines to braided. The Honda on the other hand, well I would like to change those but at £300 for a set of HELs I think I'll try bleeding the originals first!! 10 lines for the Honda so if I replace, I bet they'll be "interesting" to bleed