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conkerman · Post by **conkerman** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:45 pm

+1 for early vfr800s being rubbsh, well not rubbish, uninvolving.
Kawas are much more exciting to ride. My Zx9r was great. Mrs C said it was remarkably comfortable for pillions.

nab 301 · Post by **nab 301** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:28 pm

boxerscott wrote: Would be interested to know from anyone who has experience of these two machines. Ta.

No experience of the above , but if you do change you'll have to change your name..

Stevie · Post by **Stevie** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:08 pm

nab 301 wrote:
boxerscott wrote: Would be interested to know from anyone who has experience of these two machines. Ta.
No experience of the above , but if you do change you'll have to change your name..

Unless he is well known for getting a bit lairy in the local hostelry at the weekend

boxerscott · Post by **boxerscott** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....

Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:

It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:25 pm

boxerscott wrote:Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....

Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:

It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse

R1200R

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:33 pm

f90x wrote:
boxerscott wrote:Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....

Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:

It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse

R1200R

good call

conkerman · Post by **conkerman** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:17 pm

I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:22 pm

conkerman wrote:I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..

But the GS is? apart from hight, what's the difference? I'm about to tour on a 1200S.

conkerman · Post by **conkerman** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:30 pm

The acre of screen in front of you helps. A fly screen can only do so much.

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:35 pm

conkerman wrote:The acre of screen in front of you helps. A fly screen can only do so much.

i thought you'd say that
GS

R

conkerman · Post by **conkerman** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:55 pm

Never Seen one with a screen that big.

Fair enough.

BlueBoxer · Post by **BlueBoxer** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:56 pm

conkerman wrote:Some weights.
FJR 295kg wet.
R1200gs 250kg
K1200GT 290kg wet
R1100s 250kg wet.

The weight above is for the later model FJR1300. Earlier models weigh 268 kg with a full tank of petrol.
Reference
It's still heavier than a R1100S, but a much better 2 up touring tool, more power, better fuel consumption, a bigger tank, and much better finish then the R1100S. Change the rear shock, it's poor, for a Hagon or better, and it transforms the bike. I've had mine 10 years and 60K miles of my ownership, 72k in total. IF you can find a looked after early model, it'll be a lot of bike for what you pay for it.

As I have a choice, I would not tour two up on the R1100S, it's not in the same league.
It is easier to get out of the garage

Steve

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:32 am

That's an impressive looking R1200R.

But - I'd still maybe go for the GS, if only for the ability to take the BMW Adv luggage or aftermarket boxes with a higher weight capability.

I think the GS will also provide more weather protection to your lower body and legs.

Al

ianbcr · Post by **ianbcr** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:01 am

what about a K1200LT, has the reverse gear on to get it out the garage and the luggage is built in, oh and it even has a lit vanity mirror in the top box lid for the missus. or yourself.

bikesnbones · Post by **bikesnbones** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:12 am

f90x wrote:
conkerman wrote:I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..
But the GS is? apart from hight, what's the difference? I'm about to tour on a 1200S.

I agree.
I mean a Pan European isn't a sports bike, but that doesn't mean you can't do a track day on one and not have fun.

PS.
Would that bellypan on the R1200R above fit the 1200S ?

www.boxertrix.com

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