Hyperpro, Hagon etc

Bikerhoss · Post by **Bikerhoss** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:13 pm

Anyone tried these

Unfortunately I don't have £1600 spare to shod my bike with Ohlins, Just wondering what the alternates are for those of us on a more restricted budget. 45,000 miles turned today, and although the bike seems to be handling ok, I'm sure a refresh of the suspension will make a big difference.

http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... 5_30_KA_97

or

http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... UA60026PL.

Anyone had the original shocks serviced?

PS I did read through the sticky Aftermarket Suspension topic, but didn't see the above mentioned, Maybe I missed it

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:27 pm

If you are on a budget - go for Hagon, Maxton or Nitron, by all means. I'm pretty sure you would notice the difference between any of them - and a new OEM shock - never mind a "saggy" one.

I really don't see that a new "progressive" spring is the way to go, which together with an overhaul to OEM shock - gets a bit expensive for your return.

Winger, if I remember correctly - used an Ohlins on rear, but maintained the BMW original shock on the front - on the basis that the front seemed to make little difference?

However - Check out Wilbers, and if they are not much (if any) more than the others - could be worth the extra.

Al

exoticices · Post by **exoticices** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:00 pm

These are another option, £350 a shock (delivered), list both the R11S and R12S.
http://www.shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-bmw.html

No idea what they're like, just saw them mentioned in 'Practical Sportsbikes' I think it was. But I see no reason why they wouldn't be on a par with Hagon and maybe Nitron, and certainly better than old OEM.

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:04 pm

exoticices wrote:These are another option, £350 a shock (delivered), list both the R11S and R12S.
http://www.shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-bmw.html

No idea what they're like, just saw them mentioned in 'Practical Sportsbikes' I think it was. But I see no reason why they wouldn't be on a par with Hagon and maybe Nitron, and certainly better than old OEM.

Wouldn't take a chance on them, when the likes of Maxton produce shocks for the TT.

Al

exoticices · Post by **exoticices** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:12 pm

Blackal wrote:Wouldn't take a chance on them, when the likes of Maxton produce shocks for the TT.
Al

Yes, I'd be happy if someone else did the experimenting first! My first choice would be Nitron/Maxton, or Hagon if I was on a budget - you know what you're getting.

I suppose if you're spending upwards of £300, it might be worth getting one custom-built for your weight & riding style. And thinking long-term, get one that's rebuildable too.

GRAgusta · Post by **GRAgusta** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:15 pm

I am hugely happy with my Maxton.

I don't know a lot about suspension set up etc, and went for a fairly "budget" option set up by them for my weight, and style of riding.

It really does work as far as I am concerned, no surprises across changing surfaces, always providing a confident feel to the bike.

So I would definitely recommend Maxton, but you have to keep the threads clean if you are going to make preload adjustments.

exoticices · Post by **exoticices** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:21 pm

Just checked your motorworks link and that Hagon shock is the one with the remote preload adjuster.

Hagon do a shock with conventional preload adjustment for £300:
http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/p ... tno=M60026

Also, the rebound/compression is combined on one adjuster, so it should be easier to make fine adjustments. Looks a nice shock for the money. Rebuildable too.

Bikerhoss · Post by **Bikerhoss** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:43 pm

exoticices wrote:Just checked your motorworks link and that Hagon shock is the one with the remote preload adjuster.

Hagon do a shock with conventional preload adjustment for £300:
http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/p ... tno=M60026

Also, the rebound/compression is combined on one adjuster, so it should be easier to make fine adjustments. Looks a nice shock for the money. Rebuildable too.

I suppose with the relative easy access at the rear of the S, doing away with the remote adjuster isn't that bad a thing,

Am definitely liking the 'personal' build of the Maxton you've got G, What sort of price was that if you don't mind me asking, and is it rebuildable

Al, You might be right about the front, I don't really have a problem with the way it's tracking, and I've never felt it wander when cornering, So maybe a fresh BM one would do fine, Just be nice to have a matching pair

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:49 pm

I think the main benefit of the remote preload is that it is normally hydraulic, and therefor doesn't suffer the problem of bound threads when you try to adjust a basic shock preload.

The requirement to adjust with spring pressure on the thread only exacerbates the effect of grit etc on the fine threads.

Not something to be doing regularly "on the road" - in my opinion.

Al

GRAgusta · Post by **GRAgusta** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:55 pm

pm sent

GRAgusta · Post by **GRAgusta** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:56 pm

oh, and yes Maxton will rebuild it.

Boxered · Post by **Boxered** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:15 pm

And maxton will also adjust and tweak for the life of the shock if you turn up in person (cheshire)
top blokes, top quality shocks- built to order- to your weight and riding style
Deffo not a budget option!

Steve

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:22 pm

GRAgusta wrote:

You do realise that there's a shock - making a break for freedom, near the door?

Al

GRAgusta · Post by **GRAgusta** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:29 pm

Al

That was one sad shock feeling unloved. But it now has a cosey home in the attic retelling stories with scratched mirrors, dented cylender head covers, and the cracked indicator.

We have a policy of care in the community for the retired.

Gawaine

nab 301 · Post by **nab 301** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:54 pm

R&G shock tubes keep dirt away from preload threads..
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Shocktube.aspx#13