R1150RT WARNING LIGHTS....

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:12 am

Does anyone have an owners manual for an R1150RT? I don't have an owners manual, the dealer lost it.

I've got some warning lights on the dash.....

The 'Brake Failure' and general warning light are flashing (aternating, about every second). I'm guessing it's a low voltage problem, as the the brakes actually work fine.... Bulbs good too.....

Cheers in advance.
Steve.

tripe · Post by **tripe** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:11 am

you might find something here

http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/u ... ber=681333

and to look at this properly use internet explorer
http://www.bmwmc.net

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:49 pm

Thanks,

This -

http://www.bmwmc.net/uploads/tm10/R1150RTG.pdf

Looks good,

Will have a read through it.

el-nicko · Post by **el-nicko** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:35 am

Huh! I had that happen, (the lights) on my 1100S and I was left with residual breaking on the rear wheel

I got to thinking that if that was to happen on the front it could have potentialy un-nerving consequenses.

I bled the system a couple of times, which is a right chore, but still experienced 'brake failure' so eventualy removed the whole I-ABS system. Motorworks can supply the couple of short pipes needed for this operation and are very helpful with good advice about the procedure. The bloke I spoke to told me that they were curently sending out twenty 'kits' a week to owners that were removing I-ABS sytems.

I realy liked the system myself (when it functioned correctly) and was sorry to see it go but I just could'nt trust it in the end. My non-ABS system brakes are now almost too good and on at least two occasions I have inadvertantly performed a 'stoppie'

Riding in the wet can now, sometimes, be quite a sphincter-tightening experience though.

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:05 am

This is what I found -

Fault codes:
Gen OFF, ABS ON = Only residual braking in both circuits.
Gen OFF, ABS flashes at 1Hz = ABS not available. Pull-away test not completed.
Gen OFF, ABS flashes at 4Hz = Only residual braking function available in both circuits.
Gen ON, ABS off = rear light/brake light defective.
Gen ON, ABS flashes at 1 Hz = At least one brake circuit without ABS.
Gen ON, ABS flashes at 4Hz =At least one brake circuit in residual braking function mode.
Gen AND ABS flashing alternately at 1Hz = Fluid level in Intergral ABS too low.Low-voltage

I've given the battery a charge, which hasnt helped at all. Think it needs new fluid - defo a dealer job I think, the ABS unit is really complicated on the RT.

I've not had the bike 6 months, and it's already been back to the dealer 3 times

one time involved cutting a tour of scotland very short and spending 12hours on recovery waggons

would like to take the ABS off, but think it's a bigger job on the RT (the brakes are also fully linked - back lever does both brakes and front does both brakes). Would like to keep it on if possible....

DaveH · Post by **DaveH** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:15 am

Steve1200S wrote:
would like to take the ABS off, but think it's a bigger job on the RT (the brakes are also fully linked - back lever does both brakes and front does both brakes). Would like to keep it on if possible....

Steve,
ABS removal on the 1150 RT is no more difficult than on the other servo assisted biike....I have done a couple of RT's for people as well as GS's.

Unfortunately you WILL lose the linked brakes, there is no way round this but personally I don't see it as a problem...yer pays yer money & all that.

Anyway, if you're handy with the spanners you can read how to do it on my web site http://www.dhmoto.net/bmw_r1150gs_page_13.html.
The file can be downloaded in pdf format and the good news is it can be done for NOTHING....

Don't go buying a Motorworks 'Kit' - you don't need it !!

If you don't feel confident enough, I can remove it for you if you want to pm me

Dai wiskers · Post by **Dai wiskers** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:25 am

These are getting rave reviews on the custom scene i will be fitting one to the trike for next year when i hope to get it back on the road [ford 1800 cvh] i found out about these after fitting a odyssey to my R1100S

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motobatt-MBTX ... 46075f24a7
Buy from ebay and save postage

Not sure which one you will need but if you ask through ebay or give Busters a ring i'm sure they will help
Apparently these will start a bigger motor than an odyssey of the same size

Don't waste money going to a dealer the lads on here will get you sorted

EDIT If you decide to take it anywhere see the post above this one

DaveH · Post by **DaveH** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:19 am

Dai wiskers wrote:These are getting rave reviews on the custom scene i will be fitting one to the trike for next year when i hope to get it back on the road [ford 1800 cvh] i found out about these after fitting a odyssey to my R1100S

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motobatt-MBTX ... 46075f24a7
Buy from ebay and save postage

Not sure which one you will need but if you ask through ebay or give one

I have fitted one of these to my Morini Corsaro - wouldn't say it was much of an improvement over the stock battery in terms of cranking power, but it is certainly lighter. The 'quadflex' terminals, despite the hype are a bit of a faff if space is tight and can work loose if there is any torsional flex on the battery leads.

Worth a look if the price is right.

Dai wiskers · Post by **Dai wiskers** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:00 am

Hi Dave as i said i am only going by what has been said i have never used one
The only problem i have ever had with an Odyssey the last one not the one now fitted
When the bike refused to start i jumped it off the car i was on my way to Ipswich i had a full tank before leaving home i mistakenly thought that by the time i had covered 100 miles or so it would start after filling up not so [buggers to bump these] next fuel stop was on a hill so i bumped it again when i got to Ipswich it started fine and was fine all the way home i changed the battery for a new Odyssey and have had no problem since

The one i took off i still use for lead lights etc and it seems fine but if i charge it with a 6amp charger it will say it's fully charged then if i connect it to my welder/charger 50 amp max charge it will take at least six hours before it's truly fully charged

Odyssey battery's are great but won't charge with a run round the block or when connected to a small charger they need a boost charger at least a starter/charger to get the best out of them

If anyone has a Odyssey battery fitted and your bike refuses to start don't panic get the battery off and get it connected to a heavy duty charger for a few hours as it may just need a kick up the pants to get it back up and running

el-nicko · Post by **el-nicko** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:17 am

DaveH wrote:Don't go buying a Motorworks 'Kit' - you don't need it !!

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:15 pm

I'm sure it's not a battery issue, It's 4months old! even though it's a cheap crap one.....

Going to investigate a bit, may try and bleed it myself then take it off if it fails. would really like to keep it on though, I dont remember using the front brake lever ever on the RT.

awesome brakes, just a tw@t when they fail....

BTW, the brakes still work fine.... maybe is a 'put electric tape over the light' issue.

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:16 pm

DaveH wrote:
Dai wiskers wrote:These are getting rave reviews on the custom scene i will be fitting one to the trike for next year when i hope to get it back on the road [ford 1800 cvh] i found out about these after fitting a odyssey to my R1100S

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motobatt-MBTX ... 46075f24a7
Buy from ebay and save postage

Not sure which one you will need but if you ask through ebay or give one
I have fitted one of these to my Morini Corsaro - wouldn't say it was much of an improvement over the stock battery in terms of cranking power, but it is certainly lighter. The 'quadflex' terminals, despite the hype are a bit of a faff if space is tight and can work loose if there is any torsional flex on the battery leads.

Worth a look if the price is right.

Thanks Dave, may invite you over for a cuppa and soem advice if it gets confusing...

Daveg2812 · Post by **Daveg2812** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:27 pm

DaveH wrote: I have fitted one of these to my Morini Corsaro

Are they as bonkers as I think they might be

el-nicko · Post by **el-nicko** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:45 pm

DaveH wrote:Don't go buying a Motorworks 'Kit' - you don't need it !!

That's true Dave. Consisting as it does of just a couple of pipes it's hardly a kit. However though the small horse-shoe shaped pipe (made up 'in-house' by M/works)

is unecessary the short rear rigid pipe (remember, I'm talking 1100s here) that I bought is a BMW original non-ABS part (I believe) and just looks nicer.

I chose to leave the multi-pin plug on the bike 'cos it was the easy option but this has not been without 'consequences'

{See my post 'HELP! Why does my brake light stay on? SOLVED!!!!'}

Steve1200S · Post by **Steve1200S** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:06 pm

shite!

was just going to reply and tell you all -

I fixed the ABS light! the rear ABS reservoir was almost empty, so after 2 hours of stripping the bike down and topping it up, the problem is fixed! Bike rode fine and I was happy. I asume that because I let some fluid out of the caliper (to get the new pads in) it took some fluid from the ASB reservoir rather than the rear brake reservoir.

After a brief stop at a cafe, i noticed the brake fluid all over the rear wheel!

the reservoir was empty because the rear brake hose is split. all that stripping down an re-assembling for nothing!

Think I'm going to order some braded hoses (the bike is 11 yers old, so the other hoses must be on there way out too by now) - £140 ish from Motorworks. I'm going to drain the ABS and install the lines them maybe think about trying to blead it all......... but will probably just remove the ABS.