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Wot no gears?

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:32 pm
by Dog Tyred
Bit of advice if you would be so kind.
Wheeled the beasty out of the garage the other day for a bit of a blast. Fired her up, select first gear....nothing. Pull clutch in and out a couple of times, try again, nothing. Two minutes of trying everything I know later finally engages first and off I go. No subsequent problems.
Bike has only done 4.5K

Any clues? :?

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:37 pm
by wicker
They all do that sir. Seriously, my S needs a firm gentle but press on the lever to engage first when first starting up. Wonderful things BMW gearboxes.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:45 pm
by Dog Tyred
Hmmmm....tried that but to no effect. Only had the bike since Jan 7th and haven't managed many miles due to weather :x Bought the bike from my brother so asked him if he had every experienced the problem to which he replied 'never'.

Wondered if maybe I'd bent a selector or something?

I'll just have to see if it happens again I guess.

Saturday was first proper ride on the bike on dry roads. Well impressed :D

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:09 pm
by BR11S
Do a search on gear selection getting it into first etc.
I found that while keeping pressure down and letting the clutch out slightly it goes in every time. as the actress.....
Someone did explain once - something to do with the spline alignment.
Bern.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:11 pm
by twodear
Other than having difficulty with a false neutral between 3rd and 4th on the S and a persistant problem of not wanting to shift all the way through neutral to second from first (either bike, about 20% of the time), transmissions on both my S and GS are pretty good. The clutch seems bullet proof.

I think most bikes have a problem upshifting from first to second but I've never heard of shifting failing altogether and then seemingly starting to work as normal.

Jim

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:23 pm
by boxerpan
Perhaps the g/box oil is like treacle and need swapping to synth ? Couple of mins next to a heat source sorted it ?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:39 am
by Jason M
BR11S wrote:Do a search on gear selection getting it into first etc.
I found that while keeping pressure down and letting the clutch out slightly it goes in every time. as the actress.....
Someone did explain once - something to do with the spline alignment.
Bern.
I agree - I do it habitually now. It doesn't engage 1st with the clutch lever fully pulled back on mine either

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:20 pm
by hjr1100s
.. or push the bike back and forth a bit, thus rotating the sprockets of the gearbox, might help ...

Also giving her a pat on the back every now and then does help ...

HJ

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:03 pm
by Dog Tyred
:D Took the old gal out for a bit of ablast today and happy to report no gear box problems at all. Hoorah!!


Next time will try the pedal down, dragging clutch approach. If there is a next time !!

Cheers for the input chaps.

Looking forward to meeting a few of you in Wales at the end of March.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:15 pm
by oyster
You will get used to the false neutrals as well in time! I read here last year a very good expression for getting first to engage, 'the Neasden Shuffle!' This requires you to roll the bike back or forth just a little until the gear engages. Nearly always from cold, rarely once it's warmed up. Well worth it though.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:56 pm
by adamski49
I must have owned too many beemers as I thought it was the norm to roll back and forth / drag the clutch to engage 1st gear. Jap bikes on the other hand just engage with a feck off loud clunk. Anyone know how to engage first on a jap bike quietly? :oops:

Adam :)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:35 am
by theseadog
Dead easy Adam, just switch off the engine ! :wink:


You still enjoying the Fazer as much ?

Toodle Pip
:wav:

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:20 am
by adamski49
theseadog wrote:You still enjoying the Fazer as much ?

Toodle Pip
:wav:
Yep, so far I'm impressed, although to be fair I haven't had much chance to ride it lately. Of the 1500 odd miles I've covered most have been work-related motorway journeys :roll:

I'm looking foward to some better weather and a chance to use more of it's cornering potential (probably involving a bit of supsension adjustment)plus dabble with the top end of the rev range :shock:

Adam :)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:47 am
by Paul
Hi Adam,

How's your son progressing as a pillion?

Cheers,

Paul

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 am
by adamski49
Paul wrote:Hi Adam,

How's your son progressing as a pillion?

Cheers,

Paul
Hi Paul

We've only been out for two half hour rides but he seems to be a natural. He's not worried about hanging on to me and happy to wave as we pull away from the house. On the first ride he did tense up for a gentle sweeper but soon relaxed into it as we made our way along the local twisty B roads.

He even started shouting for me to go faster so I used a bit of brisk acceleration here and there and took it up to 70 on a straight with no junctions. I thought this was more than enough... apparently not :lol:

We'll hopefuly get more rides in as the weather warms up a bit providing he can fit me into his heavy schedule of football and/or PS2 :wink:

Cheers

Adam