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Another numpty tyre question.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:39 pm
by Dog Tyred
Hi to all. This is the first post so apologies to all if the question has been raised before.

I have just become the proud owner of a 2003 BCR (the randy one) and the rear tyre is a bit thin! Currently on the original M1's but have managed to obtain a new pair of Dunlop D208RR's gratis. Only prob is the rear is a 190/50 R17 while the existing tyre is a 180/55. Does anyone have any advise/experience as to whether this tyre size is OK to fit or do I need to swap it? :?

Any advise gratefully received.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:07 pm
by crucial
You could fit it, but it should really be on a 6" rim (for the profile to be correct) the Boxercup has a 5.5" rim. :)

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:30 pm
by bigblackfalco
I doubt it would fit in;would probably be rubbing on the swingarm.
Bailey.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:40 pm
by bmwonder
Don't see the point of putting a wider tyre on it than the standard one? Get out and ride it hard. You'll see that that the stanrd width is more than enough. You will grind the heads before you run out of tyre.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:56 pm
by Dog Tyred
It's not that I want to put a wider tyre on, it's just that I have been given a pair of new tyres gratis but the rear is 190 rather than 180. I think I will have to try and blag a swap from a tyre dealer by the sounds of it.

As for getting out there and riding it hard, I'll do just that the next sunny day we have! Roll on April!!

Cheers

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:47 pm
by boxerpan
The profile will be wrong and it will feel wierd when tipping into corners and if you are unfortunate enough to smash it up, the insurance co will have a get out of paying card. Is it worth the risk ?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:47 pm
by Gromit
Schnitzer made a very spangly 6" rimmed wheel for the S which took a 190 but sticking a hoop this wide on a 5.5" is asking for trouble in the handling stakes.

Shame, especially when you've got a free pair of tyres.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:19 pm
by boxerpan
Gromit wrote:Schnitzer made a very spangly 6" rimmed wheel for the S which took a 190 but............
It weighed more than the OEM rim - what's the point of that :?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:36 pm
by Harry
Sell 'em on e-bay. Use the dosh to buy 5.5".
job done...

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:55 pm
by winger
It'll be a 5 1/2 rim if it's a B/C,but it'll still only take a 180.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:44 pm
by sandbar
winger wrote:It'll be a 5 1/2 rim if it's a B/C,but it'll still only take a 180.
I would agree with that, BUT on another thread about the prices of the R1200S it says that the optional 190 tyre comes on a 5.5 rim!!

What is that all about then???

sandbar

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:26 pm
by Dog Tyred
Ta for the input chaps. I must admit that when I got home yesterday I checked the clearance between the existing 180 tyre (M1) and the swingarm and there aint no way a 190's gonna fit.

Oh well, off to Ebay!

While on the subject, does anyone have experienec of Dunlop 208race reps on an R1100 and if so how do they compare with Metz, Diablos, et al?

Hope to get something fitted this weekend so your thoughts would be gratefully received.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:35 pm
by Gromit
No experience of 208RR's, but like any full-on sports tyre, it'll need plenty of heat to keep consistant grip. That's not exactly easy to achieve in the current weather conditions! Personally (and tyres are of course so much down to personal taste/riding style etc) I reckon the S doesn't need anything sportier than the M1 Sportecs/Diablo/BT014/Pilot Power etc, and even then only if you're riding really hard.

I'm not the world's quickest rider, but folk who know me would probably say I don't hang around, and found that stuff like Roadtecs/Pilot Roads etc to be fine. These days, such tyres really are bloody good. To quote Niall Mackenzie when he tested a pair of 020's on a Blackbird* - 'these have all the grip you need on the road'.

*What they'd be like on a real motorcycle, I can't really say though ;)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:16 pm
by Rods
Gromit wrote: I'm not the world's quickest rider, but folk who know me would probably say I don't hang around, and found that stuff like Roadtecs/Pilot Roads etc to be fine. These days, such tyres really are bloody good. To quote Niall Mackenzie when he tested a pair of 020's on a Blackbird* - 'these have all the grip you need on the road'.

*What they'd be like on a real motorcycle, I can't really say though ;)
i'm not going to bite, i'm not going to bite... oh bugger... you certainly aren't the world's quickest rider on your current steed :P ... i'm so going to regret writing that at some point :oops:

as for tyres - i have michelin pilot roads on the s - well chuffed. superior to the bt020 IMHO (not just grip - i find bridgestones square off too quickly - anyone else have this problem?), though I might try the new avon azaros next time round as they're great on the bird.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:26 am
by julian
Michelin Pilot Powers - look no further

Best tyre I have used for grip, turn in feel and cornering stability. Rear started squaring at 2200 miles and were perfectly acceptable to 3.3k miles (now) althiough really squared off and just down to the rear indicator. May replace the rear today as the front still looks OK. Pair were £205 fitted to loose wheels with balance & valves. Only downside is the carcass is quite hard and the boxer 'thum' is quite noticable but you get used to it.

ps I like the BT020 as well, but hated the BT014 and Sportecs.