www.boxertrix.com

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/First-Aid-Kit ... 4d0daea55f

I kind of like the idea but £55 ... jeepers

I'd have to learn a bit of first aid too, and I'm ultra squeamish about things like that. I know I really should man up, but...

I once went with my misses when she had to get a blood sample taken, and they ended up having to pick me off the floor.

I also have a lifetime ban on trying to give blood. I tried twice and both times they had to tend to me before I'd given more than a teaspoonful, let alone an armful. So they sent me a nice letter saying how brave I was trying twice, but would I please stop wasting their time.

So great idea, but I'd be spark out before I'd got the key in the lock.

Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

bikesnbones wrote:Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

Having recently completed my bi annual first bike on scene course I'd send two people either direction to warn oncoming traffic (or place my bike in a visible location with the hazards on, and assuming that the car driver is ok, carefully remove the helmet as I was trained to on the course, and administer CPR as shown and practiced on the course, sharing the cpr with another (as it's hard work) until the ambulance arrives .

bikesnbones wrote:Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

Rush to the nearest pub for a strong drink.

Will they hold a couple of hip-flasks?

That could be useful

Al

bikesnbones wrote:Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

I am squeamish like Grip Fast.

I would panic first, then pass out. Incidently, I have tried to improve my skills, and have done numerous first aid courses down the years, but I am prone to fainting, hence useless in a medical emergency.

I passed out in hospital when the surgeon who operated on my father in law described the operation and can't even watch animal hospital without feeling faint, but that might be the sight of Rolf Harris.

I once witnessed an accident on the A13 where a car ran up the imbankment and rolled over. There where already a few people stopped ahead of me, and one of the guys ran over to the car, looked inside and promptly passed out, rolling back down the imbankment. It was all a bit slapstick. I called 999 and sat in the car, rather than add to the work the ambulance crew would have to do.

I should do a first bike on the scene course. So, it's on my to-do list and squeamish or not, I'll do it.

Grip Fast wrote:I should do a first bike on the scene course. So, it's on my to-do list and squeamish or not, I'll do it.

there's no blood ... although you do get to molest a dummy (cue innuendo posts)

Herb wrote:

bikesnbones wrote:Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

I am squeamish like Grip Fast.

I would panic first, then pass out. Incidently, I have tried to improve my skills, and have done numerous first aid courses down the years, but I am prone to fainting, hence useless in a medical emergency.

I passed out in hospital when the surgeon who operated on my father in law described the operation and can't even watch animal hospital without feeling faint, but that might be the sight of Rolf Harris.

I once witnessed an accident on the A13 where a car ran up the imbankment and rolled over. There where already a few people stopped ahead of me, and one of the guys ran over to the car, looked inside and promptly passed out, rolling back down the imbankment. It was all a bit slapstick. I called 999 and sat in the car, rather than add to the work the ambulance crew would have to do.

May be worth doing the course, two things may happen, the adrenalin may kick in and the training may also kick in and perhaps overcome the desire to go horizontal

bikesnbones wrote: Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

Loosen her clothing

Steve

slparry wrote: May be worth doing the course, two things may happen, the adrenalin may kick in and the training may also kick in and perhaps overcome the desire to go horizontal

This is what happens, in my experience. I'm as squeamish as anyone, but on the (fortunately few) occasions when I've needed to apply my first aid "skills", my light headedness only kicks in when I've stopped doing things and someone else has taken over.[1]

If you do any sort of activity where you're likely to be the first, or only, person around when a casualty occurs, one day you'll either be happy you did the first aid course, or pissed off that you didn't.

Personally, I think it should be compulsory at schools at, say, age 16.

Please, please, do a first aid course, everyone Your local Red Cross or St John's probably offer them for free.

One last thing, when someone says, "Thank goodness you were here and knew what to do.".........you feel pretty good about yourself!

H.

[1] tip which may or may not work for you. Running on the spot sometimes helps. OK, you look bloody silly waiting for the professionals to arrive whilst running on the spot, but at least they know who the real casualty is when they do arrive!

Get my Mrs off the back of the bike and let her do it! (She's a doctor).

I'm about due a first aid refresher though, so will get one done. And buy a first aid kit for the bike!

The FBoS courses are held all over the country

The north Wales one is

http://www.bikesafe.co.uk/Police-Forces ... iders.aspx

It's a good course to do, the certificate they provide (from the Royal College of Surgeons) is valid for two years, and they also give you an FBoS dayglo jacket and a professional first aid kit for the bike. All in all a day very well spent, and free of charge too.

bikesnbones wrote:Speaking of roadside first aid.
A little conundrum for you.
You're out for a ride one evening in the rural lanes, and you witness a collision involving a motorcyclist who is wearing a full face helmet.
He has stopped breathing.
The ambulance has been called by someone else, but is coming from very far away.
Your casualty has about 10 minutes before oxygen starvation causes death.
What would you do ?

I am sure they used to allow removal of the helmet if the casualty was not breathing to administer CPR. Advice may have changed, but I think they no longer suggest mouth to mouth for CPR, just chest compression so perhaps the helmet is left in place??????