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Hyperpro, Hagon etc
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:13 pm
by Bikerhoss
Anyone tried these
Unfortunately I don't have £1600 spare to shod my bike with Ohlins, Just wondering what the alternates are for those of us on a more restricted budget. 45,000 miles turned today, and although the bike seems to be handling ok, I'm sure a refresh of the suspension will make a big difference.
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... 5_30_KA_97
or
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... UA60026PL.
Anyone had the original shocks serviced?
PS I did read through the sticky Aftermarket Suspension topic, but didn't see the above mentioned, Maybe I missed it
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:27 pm
by Blackal
If you are on a budget - go for Hagon, Maxton or Nitron, by all means. I'm pretty sure you would notice the difference between any of them - and a new OEM shock - never mind a "saggy" one.
I really don't see that a new "progressive" spring is the way to go, which together with an overhaul to OEM shock - gets a bit expensive for your return.
Winger, if I remember correctly - used an Ohlins on rear, but maintained the BMW original shock on the front - on the basis that the front seemed to make little difference?
However - Check out Wilbers, and if they are not much (if any) more than the others - could be worth the extra.
Al

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:00 pm
by exoticices
These are another option, £350 a shock (delivered), list both the R11S and R12S.
http://www.shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-bmw.html
No idea what they're like, just saw them mentioned in 'Practical Sportsbikes' I think it was. But I see no reason why they wouldn't be on a par with Hagon and maybe Nitron, and certainly better than old OEM.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:04 pm
by Blackal
exoticices wrote:These are another option, £350 a shock (delivered), list both the R11S and R12S.
http://www.shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-bmw.html
No idea what they're like, just saw them mentioned in 'Practical Sportsbikes' I think it was. But I see no reason why they wouldn't be on a par with Hagon and maybe Nitron, and certainly better than old OEM.
Wouldn't take a chance on them, when the likes of Maxton produce shocks for the TT.
Al
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:12 pm
by exoticices
Blackal wrote:Wouldn't take a chance on them, when the likes of Maxton produce shocks for the TT.
Al
Yes, I'd be happy if someone else did the experimenting first! My first choice would be Nitron/Maxton, or Hagon if I was on a budget - you know what you're getting.
I suppose if you're spending upwards of £300, it might be worth getting one custom-built for your weight & riding style. And thinking long-term, get one that's rebuildable too.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:15 pm
by GRAgusta
I am hugely happy with my Maxton.
I don't know a lot about suspension set up etc, and went for a fairly "budget" option set up by them for my weight, and style of riding.
It really does work as far as I am concerned, no surprises across changing surfaces, always providing a confident feel to the bike.
So I would definitely recommend Maxton, but you have to keep the threads clean if you are going to make preload adjustments.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:21 pm
by exoticices
Just checked your motorworks link and that Hagon shock is the one with the remote preload adjuster.
Hagon do a shock with conventional preload adjustment for £300:
http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/p ... tno=M60026
Also, the rebound/compression is combined on one adjuster, so it should be easier to make fine adjustments. Looks a nice shock for the money. Rebuildable too.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:43 pm
by Bikerhoss
exoticices wrote:Just checked your motorworks link and that Hagon shock is the one with the remote preload adjuster.
Hagon do a shock with conventional preload adjustment for £300:
http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/p ... tno=M60026
Also, the rebound/compression is combined on one adjuster, so it should be easier to make fine adjustments. Looks a nice shock for the money. Rebuildable too.
I suppose with the relative easy access at the rear of the S, doing away with the remote adjuster isn't that bad a thing,
Am definitely liking the 'personal' build of the Maxton you've got G, What sort of price was that if you don't mind me asking, and is it rebuildable
Al, You might be right about the front, I don't really have a problem with the way it's tracking, and I've never felt it wander when cornering, So maybe a fresh BM one would do fine, Just be nice to have a matching pair

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:49 pm
by Blackal
I think the main benefit of the remote preload is that it is normally hydraulic, and therefor doesn't suffer the problem of bound threads when you try to adjust a basic shock preload.
The requirement to adjust with spring pressure on the thread only exacerbates the effect of grit etc on the fine threads.
Not something to be doing regularly "on the road" - in my opinion.
Al

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:55 pm
by GRAgusta
pm sent
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:56 pm
by GRAgusta
oh, and yes Maxton will rebuild it.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:15 pm
by Boxered
And maxton will also adjust and tweak for the life of the shock if you turn up in person (cheshire)
top blokes, top quality shocks- built to order- to your weight and riding style
Deffo not a budget option!
Steve
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:22 pm
by Blackal
GRAgusta wrote:

You do realise that there's a shock - making a break for freedom, near the door?
Al
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:29 pm
by GRAgusta
Al
That was one sad shock feeling unloved. But it now has a cosey home in the attic retelling stories with scratched mirrors, dented cylender head covers, and the cracked indicator.
We have a policy of care in the community for the retired.
Gawaine
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:54 pm
by nab 301
R&G shock tubes keep dirt away from preload threads..
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Shocktube.aspx#13
