Hmmmmm:
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews ... t/328.html
Food for thought
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bigblackfalco
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Food for thought
Honda VFR750 FV 1997 Red and dirty, 130K miles.
Honda VFR800 Xf Crossrunner 2016 White and dirty, 120K miles.
Honda VFR800 Xf Crossrunner 2016 White and dirty, 120K miles.
Oh dear does this mean that for thirty years I was a wanker and a bloody disgrace - perhaps I better go off and think about that one.Neil178 wrote:The Police are a bloody disgrace. Bet that no one gets fired, demoted, loses their pension over this.
Who ever was in charge and authorised the test should be locked up. W@****s
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Black Saab 900 Turbo
Honda F6C
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No, it's true. One copper makes a major error of judgement and you are all instantly as bad as each other, retired or notwoofboxer wrote:Oh dear does this mean that for thirty years I was a wanker and a bloody disgrace - perhaps I better go off and think about that one.Neil178 wrote:The Police are a bloody disgrace. Bet that no one gets fired, demoted, loses their pension over this.
Who ever was in charge and authorised the test should be locked up. W@****s
Maybe the tar brush should go back in the cupboard?
Adam
Forgive me father for I have sinned... ex S owner moved onto pastures new with four cylinders and a chain... and back to a twin, albeit in a V.
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bigblackfalco
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My point was to highlight the fact that sometimes the police seem to lose sight of the original objective and in doing so, it's the public that can often get hurt.
It's true there is good and bad in everything.
Bailey.
It's true there is good and bad in everything.
Bailey.
Honda VFR750 FV 1997 Red and dirty, 130K miles.
Honda VFR800 Xf Crossrunner 2016 White and dirty, 120K miles.
Honda VFR800 Xf Crossrunner 2016 White and dirty, 120K miles.
What I find strange is that people instantly jump to conclusions as to who was to blame for this accident. The article doesn't state what happened, it doesn't state or imply who was on the wrong side of the road, what speed they driving at, or anything of the like.
The fact that the Police cars were involved in an equipment test seems to be enough for everyone to jump to the conclusion that they caused the accident. I don't get it.
The fact that the Police cars were involved in an equipment test seems to be enough for everyone to jump to the conclusion that they caused the accident. I don't get it.
Yes, thank you Stevie - I'm retired and I know that ill informed, ignorant comments shouldn't get to me anymore - but somehow they still do!Stevie wrote:What I find strange is that people instantly jump to conclusions as to who was to blame for this accident. The article doesn't state what happened, it doesn't state or imply who was on the wrong side of the road, what speed they driving at, or anything of the like.
The fact that the Police cars were involved in an equipment test seems to be enough for everyone to jump to the conclusion that they caused the accident. I don't get it.
I don't know whether this testing had to take place on the road or not - probably done to satisfy the courts and ....lawyers (who I think do a wonderful job and should be commended for their contribution to society).
What would be the reaction if the police started "doing " speeders with kit that hadn't been properly tested?
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We'd probably just wheel out the "The Police are a bloody disgrace" line, it seems to fit regardless of what they've donewoofboxer wrote:What would be the reaction if the police started "doing " speeders with kit that hadn't been properly tested?
Forgive me father for I have sinned... ex S owner moved onto pastures new with four cylinders and a chain... and back to a twin, albeit in a V.
How does the fact that they have tested the equipment in controlled and repeatable circumstances (on a track / testing ground) make it less admissable in court? 
Or do the lawyers demand that these tests take place in "real-world" environments?
To clarify, I didn't prejudge the rozzers. In fact, I would be far less surprised if it turned out that the Geri was in the middle of the road / looked but did not see / had a faulty vehicle etc. In general I am a big fan of traffic police. I don't mind being pulled at all for a tax / legality / docs check.
I decided they were awesome when a police K100RT overtook me and my Dad in 198-, when I was sitting on the back of his K100RS. We were on a motorway island, and the copper was doing about 20mph more than us, on a damp day, with his stand and crashbars grounding out. I remember thinking "holy sh1t that's cool".
I have harboured a secret desire to be a bike copper myself, ever since.
Or do the lawyers demand that these tests take place in "real-world" environments?To clarify, I didn't prejudge the rozzers. In fact, I would be far less surprised if it turned out that the Geri was in the middle of the road / looked but did not see / had a faulty vehicle etc. In general I am a big fan of traffic police. I don't mind being pulled at all for a tax / legality / docs check.
I decided they were awesome when a police K100RT overtook me and my Dad in 198-, when I was sitting on the back of his K100RS. We were on a motorway island, and the copper was doing about 20mph more than us, on a damp day, with his stand and crashbars grounding out. I remember thinking "holy sh1t that's cool".
I have harboured a secret desire to be a bike copper myself, ever since.
Interesting to see how everyone jumps to the conclusion that it's the fault of the police driver just on Visordown's say-so. After all, the press have an enviable record of balanced factual reporting, don't they?
Do you believe everything you read? If so, I'm having a card game at my house tonight, you're invited, oh and bring plenty of money with you.
Do you believe everything you read? If so, I'm having a card game at my house tonight, you're invited, oh and bring plenty of money with you.
Journos
Ade
articleare a bloody disgrace. Bet that no one gets fired, demoted, loses their pension over this. Who ever was in charge and authorised the
My dealings with the press recently have highlighted how much they won't let the truth get in the way of a good story - even when I write the article...should be locked up. W@****s
Ade
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1980 Vespa P125X
Hey Woof, not knowing you I can't answer your question to the forum, but if the cap fits ..... 
Maybe I should have said the Police Service and not the Police. It was not meant to be a personal attack on any individual and certainly not you.
After 30 years of dealing with the public your skin should be thicker though!
Your signature block seems to condone 'speedin' though.
My point is below taken from the BBC news. Who will be disciplined?
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Broadcaster Sheena McDonald has been transferred to a hospital near her home town of Edinburgh, in an attempt to beat the memory loss she has been suffering since a traffic accident.
The Scottish newsreader suffered serious head injuries when she was hit by a police van, which was answering a 999 call, near her London home six weeks ago.
Ms McDonald, 44, was transferred from the National Hospital for Neurosurgery in London, to Astley Ainslie Hospital in Edinburgh on Tuesday.
Friends to aid recovery
The hospital specialises in the treatment of head injuries and the long-term recovery of victims of accidents and illness.
Edinburgh is Ms McDonald's main home, and doctors believe easier access to her family and friends and the familiarity of the town will help her recover her memory.
McDonald travelled from London to Edinburgh by train, arriving at Waverley Station at 4.40pm where she was met by a police escort.
Her boyfriend Alan Little, the BBC's Moscow correspondent, accompanied Ms McDonald on the journey.
He said: "It's great to be back. She's getting much better, thank you very much. She really can't talk at the moment."
Wearing a black blouson leather jacket and jeans, Ms McDonald was clearly still frail as she walked the few steps from the train to a Rover ambulance car which was waiting on the platform.
Investigation ongoing
The Channel 4 newsreader needed facial surgery after the incident on 27 February, which happened as she crossed the road near her home in Islington, north London.
However, doctors say they are no longer concerned about her physical injuries.
A spokesman for University College Hospitals London, which includes the National Hospital for Neurosurgery, said Ms McDonald's condition was stable and continuing to improve.
The Metropolitan Police is continuing an investigation into the accident.
Reports following the accident suggested the police van was unroadworthy, and was travelling on the wrong side of the road.
Police are investigating claims that the van involved had a faulty speedometer, that its blue flashing light was not working properly, and that the air pressures in the tyres were low.
The driver, a 27-year-old police constable, was suspended from driving duty and the crash is being investigated as a matter of routine.
Neither the driver nor the 30-year-old PC front seat passenger, both of whom are based at Islington Police Station, were injured in the accident.
Maybe I should have said the Police Service and not the Police. It was not meant to be a personal attack on any individual and certainly not you.
After 30 years of dealing with the public your skin should be thicker though!
Your signature block seems to condone 'speedin' though.
My point is below taken from the BBC news. Who will be disciplined?
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Broadcaster Sheena McDonald has been transferred to a hospital near her home town of Edinburgh, in an attempt to beat the memory loss she has been suffering since a traffic accident.
The Scottish newsreader suffered serious head injuries when she was hit by a police van, which was answering a 999 call, near her London home six weeks ago.
Ms McDonald, 44, was transferred from the National Hospital for Neurosurgery in London, to Astley Ainslie Hospital in Edinburgh on Tuesday.
Friends to aid recovery
The hospital specialises in the treatment of head injuries and the long-term recovery of victims of accidents and illness.
Edinburgh is Ms McDonald's main home, and doctors believe easier access to her family and friends and the familiarity of the town will help her recover her memory.
McDonald travelled from London to Edinburgh by train, arriving at Waverley Station at 4.40pm where she was met by a police escort.
Her boyfriend Alan Little, the BBC's Moscow correspondent, accompanied Ms McDonald on the journey.
He said: "It's great to be back. She's getting much better, thank you very much. She really can't talk at the moment."
Wearing a black blouson leather jacket and jeans, Ms McDonald was clearly still frail as she walked the few steps from the train to a Rover ambulance car which was waiting on the platform.
Investigation ongoing
The Channel 4 newsreader needed facial surgery after the incident on 27 February, which happened as she crossed the road near her home in Islington, north London.
However, doctors say they are no longer concerned about her physical injuries.
A spokesman for University College Hospitals London, which includes the National Hospital for Neurosurgery, said Ms McDonald's condition was stable and continuing to improve.
The Metropolitan Police is continuing an investigation into the accident.
Reports following the accident suggested the police van was unroadworthy, and was travelling on the wrong side of the road.
Police are investigating claims that the van involved had a faulty speedometer, that its blue flashing light was not working properly, and that the air pressures in the tyres were low.
The driver, a 27-year-old police constable, was suspended from driving duty and the crash is being investigated as a matter of routine.
Neither the driver nor the 30-year-old PC front seat passenger, both of whom are based at Islington Police Station, were injured in the accident.