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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:45 pm
by conkerman
+1 for early vfr800s being rubbsh, well not rubbish, uninvolving.
Kawas are much more exciting to ride. My Zx9r was great. Mrs C said it was remarkably comfortable for pillions.
Re: Boxered Out
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:28 pm
by nab 301
boxerscott wrote: Would be interested to know from anyone who has experience of these two machines. Ta.
No experience of the above , but if you do change you'll have to change your name..
Re: Boxered Out
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:08 pm
by Stevie
nab 301 wrote:boxerscott wrote: Would be interested to know from anyone who has experience of these two machines. Ta.
No experience of the above , but if you do change you'll have to change your name..
Unless he is well known for getting a bit lairy in the local hostelry at the weekend
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:19 pm
by boxerscott
Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....
Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:
It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:25 pm
by f90x
boxerscott wrote:Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....
Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:
It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse
R1200R
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:33 pm
by slparry
f90x wrote:boxerscott wrote:Well the weight of those bikes on the list surprised me. 13 years ago I would have not batted an eyelid at a 300kg bike. But now....
Is the GS really my best option ?:shock:
It does seem two up riding and lightweight are diverse
R1200R
good call
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:17 pm
by conkerman
I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:22 pm
by f90x
conkerman wrote:I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..
But the GS is? apart from hight, what's the difference? I'm about to tour on a 1200S.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:30 pm
by conkerman
The acre of screen in front of you helps. A fly screen can only do so much.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:35 pm
by f90x
conkerman wrote:The acre of screen in front of you helps. A fly screen can only do so much.
i thought you'd say that
GS
R
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:55 pm
by conkerman
Never Seen one with a screen that big.
Fair enough.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:56 pm
by BlueBoxer
conkerman wrote:Some weights.
FJR 295kg wet.
R1200gs 250kg
K1200GT 290kg wet
R1100s 250kg wet.
The weight above is for the later model FJR1300. Earlier models weigh 268 kg with a full tank of petrol.
Reference
It's still heavier than a R1100S, but a much better 2 up touring tool, more power, better fuel consumption, a bigger tank, and much better finish then the R1100S. Change the rear shock, it's poor, for a Hagon or better, and it transforms the bike. I've had mine 10 years and 60K miles of my ownership, 72k in total. IF you can find a looked after early model, it'll be a lot of bike for what you pay for it.
As I have a choice, I would not tour two up on the R1100S, it's not in the same league.
It is easier to get out of the garage
Steve
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:32 am
by Blackal
That's an impressive looking R1200R.
But - I'd still maybe go for the GS, if only for the ability to take the BMW Adv luggage or aftermarket boxes with a higher weight capability.
I think the GS will also provide more weather protection to your lower body and legs.
Al
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:01 am
by ianbcr
what about a K1200LT, has the reverse gear on to get it out the garage and the luggage is built in, oh and it even has a lit vanity mirror in the top box lid for the missus. or yourself.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:12 am
by bikesnbones
f90x wrote:conkerman wrote:I did think about that one but not much of a Tourer is it..
But the GS is? apart from hight, what's the difference? I'm about to tour on a 1200S.
I agree.
I mean a Pan European isn't a sports bike, but that doesn't mean you can't do a track day on one and not have fun.
PS.
Would that bellypan on the R1200R above fit the 1200S ?
